Title:
Student Learning
Convener:
Krissy Pirehpour
Participants:
Carnella Hardin
Barbara Mosetick
Angela Dobrsynski
Tillie Byler
David Cost
Larry Backs
Rene Diaz
Jeannette Stewart
Krissy Pirehpour
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Discussion:
- How do you measure what you teach and apply the tasks. Some students stay up all night to study for a test. Pass the test and not remember what they learned. I don't think that is learning.
- The process is helping students learn. If students have the facts and the knowledge of where to find the information then the instructor is teaching learning.
- It is important for the student to learn the concepts of the course.
- Memorizing is short term.
- Students don't want to regurgitate. Question: What does that mean? Let the student become more involved with what is being taught.
- Teachers teach as they were taught. They grade as they were graded. One person said they teach Steven Covey and when they teach, they encourage those that they teach, to come back and teach them what they have learned.
- Someone said they think it goes deeper. If the teacher is not excited about what they are teaching, there is no way the student can become excited about what is being taught. There are two identical classes where one class is receptive to the teacher and one class is not.
- Students have to be responsible for their learning. Students need to tell the instructor what they need. They need to know what is expected.
- Teacher become sensitive to where the teacher is and where the student is.
- Different lifestyles now. The teacher did not work 40 hours per week back then and go to school. There was no TV, but kids were reading and playing with nature. The teacher is not becoming sensitive to the differences.
- Teacher trying hard to talk to the heart and connect with them personally.
- Sometimes do a lecture, sometimes a project etc.
- Teachers learn from all the students as well.
- Telling a student if they have a question to come to the teacher. That means nothing to the student because there are not behavior consequences tied to that.
- Teacher asks question - what did you find interesting, difficult, what was the connection to real life?
- Teacher tell student, I value you being in class, but there is responsibility as well. Is done in small group.
- 18 minutes after routine testing the information is gone.
- What measures do you use to evaluate the learning. Different ways, e.g. pick out the key elements of the chapter and represent that to be in another kind of way. One student took boxes and put key elements on each side that she felt represented the learning. One student sang, that was her way of learning.
- Would get more out of saying how something relates to me than taking a test. In some classes you need to know certain concepts. How do you best learn that.
- It is OK for some testing, but not every day taking notes and then testing. Sounds like spoon feeding. Some teachers teach that way because that is what they have done all their lives.
- The system doesn't like change. The interesting thing is the week after classes is called finals week where testing is done. Do you allow for the individual learning styles? Yes there are key points that are tested. Primarily it is discussion. There are traditional methods used.
Recommendations
- Students want to feel comfortable to talk to teacher, student did not know their name, that they were a number. If student has problem, can go to teacher.
- Need to evaluate students separately, they all learn differently at different levels. Be creative in the way they take finals.
- Get administration to recognize different styles of teaching and testing and find them acceptable.
- Administration needs to support what is acceptable.
- Encourage students to accept that.
- Encourage faculty to expand their scope.
- Put responsibility on student.
- Become involved in teaching and learning process. Accept the information and claim as yours.
- Measure skill sets. Teachers ask students if this accurately measures the skills you need.
- If students get the resource and how to apply it, then they donŐt have to memorize the information.
- Major question is how does a person best learn?
Open Space Forum - 04.07.99 - Glendale Community College
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